20:00 < bdale> *GAVEL* 20:00 < bdale> [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order. 20:00 < bdale> Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2007/2007-11-14.html 20:00 < cdlu> hi 20:00 < bdale> [item 2, Roll Call] 20:00 < bdale> Board members, please state your name for the record. As we have nine board members, quorum for today's meeting is six. 20:00 < bdale> Guests (including board advisors), please /msg your names to Maulkin if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting. 20:00 < bdale> I saw on IRC that Josh Berkus will not be here. Neil, any other regrets? 20:00 < cdlu> David Graham 20:00 < Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert 20:00 < schultmc> Michael Schultheiss 20:00 < bdale> Bdale Garbee 20:00 < Maulkin> Neil McGovern 20:00 < Maulkin> bdale: that's the only one noted 20:01 < bdale> Maulkin: ok. we need one more then. who are we missing? 20:01 < Maulkin> josh drake 20:01 < schultmc> luk 20:01 < Maulkin> luk 20:01 < Maulkin> and... 20:01 < luk> Luk Claes 20:01 < Maulkin> Someone 20:02 < bdale> great, we have quorum now 20:02 < schultmc> Martin Zobel-Helas 20:02 < bdale> right 20:02 < schultmc> =someone :) 20:02 < Maulkin> Ahh, yeah, zobel 20:02 < bdale> ok, as we have 6 in attendance, I propose to move on. hopefully the others will yet join us. 20:02 < luk> zobel is on VAC for one week AFAIK 20:02 < bdale> [item 3, President's Report] 20:02 < bdale> Between work-related travel and a family health situation in the last month, I still have not made time to complete and publish our annual report yet. 20:02 < bdale> Will again try to get that closed before our next meeting. 20:03 < Ganneff> can someone else help? 20:03 < bdale> [item 4, Treasurer's Report] 20:03 < bdale> Michael? 20:03 < bdale> Ganneff: I need to work with Michael on it, mostly, I think 20:03 < schultmc> Josh and I are almost caught up on data entry 20:03 < Maulkin> bdale: do you need anything else frop us for the report? 20:03 * schultmc has a tentative project balance report available as of mid september 2007 20:03 < Ganneff> bdale: so mostly treasurr stuff missing? or? 20:04 < luk> schultmc: do you also take care of the Membership Committee part of the report? 20:04 < bdale> Ganneff: I think so, but honestly, I need to look at it again to remind myself. let's discuss after the meeting. 20:04 < schultmc> luk: you're the chair :P 20:04 < luk> so you want me to appoint you? ;-) 20:04 < bdale> I don't think we have the membership ctte on the agenda explicitly, but happy to take a report after we finish with treasury 20:04 < schultmc> I'm also working with our CPA to get our 2006 taxes filed 20:04 < schultmc> bdale: he means for the annual report 20:05 < bdale> oh, ok 20:05 < Hydroxide> schultmc: you mean the information return(s), or do we actually owe taxes somehow? 20:05 < schultmc> the form 990 information return 20:05 < bdale> so, to wrap my thoughts on the annual report, I haven't looked at what we do and don't have in place in a while, so I need to review that before we can discuss it usefully. I'll try to do that this week and find any of you that I need inputs from via IRC or email. 20:05 < schultmc> we don't owe taxes as far as I'm aware 20:06 < Hydroxide> right, ok good 20:06 < bdale> schultmc: so, it sounds like you're making progress. need anything from the rest of us right now? 20:06 < schultmc> not at this time 20:06 * schultmc is putting the draft balance online now 20:07 < bdale> schultmc: ok. I'm looking forward to seeing something like an up to date report as soon as you're caught up, etc. 20:07 < bdale> schultmc: good. anything else, or should we move on? 20:07 < schultmc> i'll send out a proper balance report once we're caught up with data entry (expected shortly) 20:07 < schultmc> we can move on - I can post a URL as soon as I figure out plone :) 20:07 < bdale> ok, great 20:07 < bdale> [item 5, Secretary's report] 20:07 < bdale> Neil? 20:07 < Maulkin> schultmc: shout if you need help 20:07 < Maulkin> bdale: as agenda. 20:08 < bdale> Maulkin: ok, if nothing non-specific here, we can move on? 20:08 < Maulkin> bdale: sure :) 20:08 < bdale> ;-) 20:08 < bdale> [item 6, Outstanding minutes] 20:08 < bdale> Neil, it looks like we have several sets ready for acceptance today? 20:08 < Maulkin> Ineed, 5. 20:08 < schultmc> http://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/2007-11-14-draft-report.html is the draft balance report as of mid september 20:08 < Maulkin> This should bring us up to date 20:09 * Hydroxide cheers 20:09 < bdale> has everyone read the minutes and is ready to vote on them? 20:09 < schultmc> the SPI General net is too high - we probably have unearmarked Debian funds in that total 20:09 * schultmc has 20:09 * bdale has 20:09 * luk has 20:09 * cdlu has not found any problems with the minutes 20:09 * Maulkin has :P 20:10 < bdale> right, if there are any suggested corrections it'd be easier to handle them now than after we start voting 20:10 < bdale> I don't have any corrections 20:10 < bdale> Neil, I think we can start the voting, then. 20:10 * cdlu moves to approve them in bulk 20:10 * Maulkin moves to vote, in order, one after the other. 20:11 * schultmc seconds Maulkin 20:11 < Maulkin> (as there may be some absentions for some) 20:11 < luk> indeed 20:11 * Ganneff wont vote on minutes for meetings where i was no board member.. 20:11 < bdale> cdlu: I need to abstain on meetings I missed, vote per is better 20:11 < Maulkin> Ganneff: you can vote if you were present 20:11 < bdale> Maulkin: so I agree on a vote per, please proceed 20:11 < Maulkin> Voting started, 6 people (cdlu,ganneff,schultmc,bdale,maulkin,luk) allowed to vote on Approve June 18th, 2007 minutes. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:11 < schultmc> !vote yes 20:11 < Maulkin> !vote yes 20:11 < bdale> !vote yes 20:11 < cdlu> !vote yes 20:11 < Ganneff> Maulkin: as you havent written non-board members in the minutes i cant remember what of those i missed, and i missed some. :) 20:11 < Ganneff> !vote abstain 20:11 < luk> !vote abstain 20:11 < Maulkin> Ganneff: fair enough 20:11 < bdale> Ganneff: abstain is fine in that case 20:12 < Maulkin> Current voting results for "Approve June 18th, 2007 minutes": Yes: 4, No: 0, Abstain: 2, Missing: 0 () 20:12 < Maulkin> Voting for "Approve June 18th, 2007 minutes" closed. 20:12 < Maulkin> Voting started, 6 people (cdlu,ganneff,schultmc,bdale,maulkin,luk) allowed to vote on Approve July 6th 2007 minutes. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:12 < schultmc> !vote yes 20:12 < Maulkin> !vote yes 20:12 < bdale> !vote yes 20:12 < luk> !vote abstain 20:12 < Ganneff> !vote abstain 20:12 < luk> cdlu? 20:12 < bdale> cdlu: ? 20:12 < Maulkin> cdlu? 20:12 < cdlu> !vote yes 20:12 < cdlu> sorry 20:12 < Maulkin> Current voting results for "Approve July 6th 2007 minutes": Yes: 4, No: 0, Abstain: 2, Missing: 0 () 20:12 < Maulkin> Voting for "Approve July 6th 2007 minutes" closed. 20:12 < Maulkin> Voting started, 6 people (cdlu,ganneff,schultmc,bdale,maulkin,luk) allowed to vote on Approve August 17th 2007 minutes. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:12 < Ganneff> !vote abstain 20:12 < schultmc> !vote yes 20:13 < Maulkin> !vote yes 20:13 < bdale> !vote abstain 20:13 < cdlu> !vote yes 20:13 < luk> !vote abstain 20:13 < Ganneff> (missed that ) 20:13 < Maulkin> Current voting results for "Approve August 17th 2007 minutes": Yes: 3, No: 0, Abstain: 3, Missing: 0 () 20:13 < Maulkin> Voting for "Approve August 17th 2007 minutes" closed. 20:13 < Maulkin> Voting started, 6 people (cdlu,ganneff,schultmc,bdale,maulkin,luk) allowed to vote on Approve September 19th 2007 minutes. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:13 < Maulkin> erm... 20:13 < schultmc> !vote yes 20:13 < cdlu> !vote yes 20:13 < Maulkin> Ahh, carry on :) 20:13 < bdale> !vote abstain 20:13 < Maulkin> !vote yes 20:13 < Ganneff> !vote yes 20:13 < luk> !vote yes 20:13 < Maulkin> Current voting results for "Approve September 19th 2007 minutes": Yes: 5, No: 0, Abstain: 1, Missing: 0 () 20:13 < Maulkin> Voting for "Approve September 19th 2007 minutes" closed. 20:13 < Maulkin> Voting started, 6 people (cdlu,ganneff,schultmc,bdale,maulkin,luk) allowed to vote on Approve October 17th 2007minutes. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:13 < Maulkin> !vote yes 20:13 < schultmc> !vote abstain 20:13 < cdlu> !vote yes 20:13 < bdale> !vote yes 20:13 < luk> !vote abstain 20:13 < Ganneff> !vote yes 20:14 < Maulkin> Current voting results for "Approve October 17th 2007minutes": Yes: 4, No: 0, Abstain: 2, Missing: 0 () 20:14 < Maulkin> Voting for "Approve October 17th 2007minutes" closed. 20:14 < Maulkin> All done 20:14 < bdale> WOOT! 20:14 * Hydroxide cheers again 20:14 < bdale> thanks to Neil for that, it feels good to be caught up on minutes again! 20:14 < Maulkin> No problems 20:14 < bdale> [item 7, Items up for discussion] 20:14 < bdale> [item 7.1, Resolution 2007-11-14.nm.1 - EU-wide Debian Trademark] 20:14 < bdale> Neil? 20:14 < Maulkin> This one seems pretty clear. Any comments/suggestions? 20:15 < bdale> did I miss it in email, or do you have an anticipated cost of pursuing this? 20:15 < Maulkin> Just a sec... 20:15 < bdale> I think you said 2k euro when we first talked about this? 20:15 < Maulkin> I thereby approve the immediate disbursement of 500 GBP and 750 EUR 20:15 < Maulkin> ... 20:15 < Maulkin> I also approve the future disbursement of 850 EUR in 18 months, 20:15 < Maulkin> About 2k EUR 20:16 < cdlu> so DPL is controlling the cost of this expenditure from his budget... so no need to limit it in the resolution. 20:16 < bdale> right, ok. not really up to us, but wanted to have my head wrapped around that bit. 20:16 < Maulkin> Prices will vary slightly depending on echange rates. 20:16 < bdale> sure 20:16 < Maulkin> Yesh, DPL has approved it :P 20:16 < Maulkin> However, I'll be registering it for SPI. 20:16 < bdale> ok, I'm happy with the resolution. 20:16 < bdale> any further discussion? 20:16 < Maulkin> (hence the resolution :P) 20:16 * Maulkin moves to vote 20:16 * schultmc seconds 20:16 * cdlu seconds 20:16 < Maulkin> Voting started, 6 people (cdlu,ganneff,schultmc,bdale,maulkin,luk) allowed to vote on Approve resolution 2007-11-14.nm.1 - EU-wide Debian Trademark. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:16 < Ganneff> go 20:16 < luk> !vote yes 20:16 < cdlu> !vote yes 20:16 < Maulkin> !vote yes 20:16 < Ganneff> !vote yes 20:16 < bdale> !vote yes 20:16 < schultmc> !vote yes 20:17 < Maulkin> Current voting results for "Approve resolution 2007-11-14.nm.1 - EU-wide Debian Trademark": Yes: 6, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 0 () 20:17 < Maulkin> Voting for "Approve resolution 2007-11-14.nm.1 - EU-wide Debian Trademark" closed. 20:17 < Maulkin> passed. 20:17 < bdale> ok, great 20:17 < bdale> [item 7.2, Resolution 2007-11-14.jdd.1.jb.1 - Obtaining new legal counsel] 20:17 < bdale> hrm. Joshua still not here? 20:17 * cdlu is prepared to move to a vote on this resolution. 20:17 < bdale> I think this one is also straight-forward, and am prepared to vote in favor. 20:17 * cdlu so moves 20:17 < Maulkin> Nope, but I'm happy voting. Seems simple enough 20:17 * schultmc seconds 20:17 * Maulkin seconds 20:17 * Ganneff seconds 20:17 < Maulkin> Voting started, 1 people (name) allowed to vote on Approve resolution 2007-11-14.jdd.1.jb.1 - Obtaining new legal counsel. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:18 < schultmc> !vote yes 20:18 < Maulkin> !vote yes 20:18 < cdlu> !vote ytes 20:18 < bdale> !vote yes 20:18 < cdlu> !vote yes 20:18 < luk> !vote yes 20:18 < Ganneff> Maulkin: 1 people allowed to vote? 20:18 < schultmc> hrm 20:18 < cdlu> hehe 20:18 < schultmc> 1 people (name) allowed to vote? 20:18 < Maulkin> oops... 20:18 < Ganneff> and all people vote without looking. tsts. :) 20:18 < Maulkin> I'll add it up manually :) 20:18 < bdale> Ganneff: go ahead and vote, he can figure it out if it's all yesses... 20:18 < Ganneff> !vote yes 20:18 < Maulkin> Current voting results for "Approve resolution 2007-11-14.jdd.1.jb.1 - Obtaining new legal counsel": Yes: 0, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 1 ( name ) 20:18 < Maulkin> Voting for "Approve resolution 2007-11-14.jdd.1.jb.1 - Obtaining new legal counsel" closed. 20:18 < bdale> ;-) 20:18 < Ganneff> bdale: than i should have voted no :) 20:18 < Maulkin> Whatever. All passed. 6:0:0 20:18 < cdlu> Ganneff, the bot isn't an official part of procedures ;) 20:19 < bdale> Ganneff: pfft 20:19 < Maulkin> Done :P 20:19 < bdale> Do any board members have other items for discussion they would like to address briefly? 20:19 < luk> Ganneff: you should have changed nick and voted... 20:19 < Ganneff> badluk 20:19 < cdlu> bdale, not off-hand. 20:19 < Maulkin> I think we're done :) 20:19 < Ganneff> none here. 20:20 < bdale> [item 8, Next board meeting] 20:20 < bdale> Neil? I believe our default would be Wednesday 19th Dec, 2007 - 20:00 UTC? 20:20 < bdale> that would work for me 20:20 < Maulkin> Aye, that's the one. 20:20 < schultmc> should work for me 20:20 < Ganneff> fine for me 20:20 < cdlu> 19th december. I may be attending that one from the middle of nowhere. 20:20 < Maulkin> Unless people want to change it now UTC has stared 20:20 < Maulkin> *started 20:20 < bdale> doesn't matter to me 20:20 < Maulkin> erm... I mean non-summer time 20:20 < schultmc> heh 20:20 < schultmc> UTC ended? ;) 20:20 < bdale> as long as it's on my calendar, I'm good 20:20 < cdlu> hehe 20:21 < Maulkin> Well, email if it's not :P 20:21 < luk> 19UTC as well as 21UTC would fit better for me 20:21 < bdale> ok, let's leave it as is until/unless there's some dissent via email. hard to poll those not here today this instant... 20:21 * cdlu is totally impartial 20:21 < Maulkin> yup 20:21 < bdale> luk: so you'd prefer *not* 20UTC? 20:21 < cdlu> as long as it's between 1300Z and 0300Z I'm set. :) 20:21 < luk> bdale: indeed 20:21 < Maulkin> 19:00 then? 20:22 < Ganneff> yes 20:22 < Ganneff> for now. 20:22 < bdale> Maulkin: 19:00 works for me 20:22 < Maulkin> And make it regular? 20:22 < luk> yes, IMHO 20:22 < bdale> yes, let's make it 19:00 regular unless there's dissent leading to a different conclusion by email 20:22 < Maulkin> (fwiw, we had 19:00 in non summer time, and 20:00 in before) 20:22 * schultmc will e-mail if that presents a problem - no problem seen ATM 20:22 < Maulkin> Works for me. 20:22 < bdale> Ok, thank you to everyone present for participating today. Until next time! 20:22 < bdale> *GAVEL*