15:00 < Ganneff> *BANG*
15:00 < Ganneff> [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order.  Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2009/2009-01-21.html
15:00 < Ganneff> [item 2, Roll Call]
15:00 < Ganneff> Board members, please state your name for the record.  As we have nine board members, quorum for today's meeting is six.  Guests, please /msg your names to Hydroxide if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting.
15:00 < Ganneff> Hydroxide: please update us on known and tentative regrets.
15:00 < Maulkin> Neil McGovern
15:00 < cdlu> David Graham
15:00 < Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert
15:00 < Hydroxide> Jimmy Kaplowitz
15:00 < linuxpoet> Joshua D. Drake
15:00 < cdlu> 1 more for quorum
15:00 < Hydroxide> known regrets from Michael Schultheiss
15:00 < zobel> Martin Zobel-Helas
15:00 < Hydroxide> tentative regrets from Bdale Garbee
15:00 < cdlu> quorum
15:00 < Ganneff> damn you zobel. quorum
15:00 < luk> Luk Claes
15:00 < Ganneff> [item 3, President's Report]
15:00 < Ganneff> None, i think? and no bdale.
15:01 < Hydroxide> right.
15:01 < Ganneff> [item 4, Treasurer's Report]
15:01 < Ganneff> schultmc - not here, so nothing
15:01 < Ganneff> [item 5, Secretary's report]
15:01 < Ganneff> Hydroxide: your time
15:01 < Hydroxide> right.
15:01 < Hydroxide> I put a secretary's report in the agenda with various updates. any questions?
15:01 < Ganneff> the git repo is there now.
15:01 < Ganneff> nothing much more done besides that.
15:02 < Hydroxide> ok
15:02 < Ganneff> done?
15:02 < linuxpoet> done
15:02 < Hydroxide> cdlu: the 3/19 meeting minutes link works for me
15:02 < Hydroxide> cdlu: it goes to http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/meeting-minutes/2008/meeting-minutes-2008-03-19.txt/view
15:02 < Hydroxide> cdlu: clear your cache maybe
15:02 < Ganneff> [item 6, Outstanding minutes]
15:02 < Ganneff> Again for Hydroxide.
15:03 < cdlu> it works now
15:03 < Hydroxide> Last meeting's minutes are not yet ready due to me being sick - will have them for next meeting. We have three meeting minutes from before my term as Secretary, generously prepared by zobel 
15:03 < Hydroxide> thank you very much, Martin!
15:03 < Ganneff> lets vote. :)
15:03 < Hydroxide> one of them needs a few additional details to be added later, as per the agenda.
15:03 < Hydroxide> (that can be a separate vote, later, but we can approve what's there now)
15:03 < Hydroxide> we need three votes or one?
15:03  * Maulkin would suggest leaving one that isn't ready yet
15:04 < Hydroxide> I can do that too
15:04 < Maulkin> Just one? :)
15:04 < Hydroxide> the second and third are ready
15:04 < Ganneff> anyone against voting on both together?
15:04 < cdlu> anyone want to move for separation? :)
15:04  * cdlu is prepared to vote in bulk
15:04 < zobel> i will try to get the other three ready for next meeting, unless Maulkin will do it.
15:04 < linuxpoet> Considering I don't even remember the meeting, I am indifferent
15:04 < Ganneff> so lets do them together.
15:05 < luk> s/announced announced/announced/ for the May one
15:05 < Hydroxide> Voting started, 7 people (linuxpoet,luk,ganneff,hydroxide,maulkin,cdlu,zobel) allowed to vote on Approve April/May 2008 minutes. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now.
15:05 < zobel> linuxpoet: we could also move the vote and i will add the logs of those meetings to the minutes,
15:05 < Ganneff> !vote yes
15:05 < cdlu> !vote yes
15:05 < Hydroxide> !vote yes
15:05 < linuxpoet> !vote abstain
15:05 < Maulkin> !vote yes
15:06 < luk> !vote yes (though want the repetition removed ;-))
15:06 < zobel> !vote yes
15:06 < Ganneff> luk: only vote, comment seperately.
15:06 < Hydroxide> luk: try voting again
15:06 < Ganneff> dont confuse the script
15:06 < luk> !vote yes
15:06 < Hydroxide> luk: I'll fix the typo
15:06 < Hydroxide> Current voting results for "Approve April/May 2008 minutes": Yes: 6, No: 0, Abstain: 1, Missing: 0 ()
15:06 < Hydroxide> Voting for "Approve April/May 2008 minutes" closed.
15:06 < Hydroxide> good.
15:06 < Ganneff> good.
15:06 < Ganneff> thats all we have to vote on here, right?
15:06 < Hydroxide> as far as minutes, yes
15:06 < Hydroxide> next item is linuxpoet's resolution
15:07 < Ganneff> [item 7, Stuff for discussion]
15:07 < Ganneff> We seem to have 1 item here, "Resolution 2009-01-09.jdd.1 - New affiliated project: Helios Initiative (Joshua D. Drake)"
15:07 < linuxpoet> Right
15:07 < linuxpoet> I spoke with SFLC
15:07 < Hydroxide> lots of info in the agenda, previously sent to -private a while ago
15:07 < linuxpoet> I received the following:
15:07 < linuxpoet> Sounds great, but agree that there are certain considerations for handling these kinds of donations that you need to be careful about.
15:07 < linuxpoet> I'll need to do a little bit of research to refresh my memory and could get back to you Wednesday or Thursday. Is that soon enough?
15:07 < linuxpoet> From Karen Sandler
15:07 < linuxpoet> I have not heard as of yet
15:08 < Hydroxide> sounds like we'll probably be able to approve them in the end but might want to wait until February so we can hear from her?
15:08 < linuxpoet> I suggest we table voting until we have exact procedures required to ensure this will work appropriately
15:08  * Maulkin is unhappy on votingfor this without a legal brief
15:08  * Hydroxide agrees
15:08 < linuxpoet> Only question I have is, do we have to wait until Februrary?
15:08  * luk too
15:08 < Ganneff> same here.
15:08 < linuxpoet> If we get what we need in two days, can we hold an email vote?
15:08 < Ganneff> linuxpoet: well. we *can* do email votes, if really needed.
15:08 < Maulkin> But it'... interesting
15:08 < Hydroxide> linuxpoet: it's easiest. we may want clarifications, etc. and email votes are allowed but need 100% unanimity among all 9 board members under NY law
15:08 < Hydroxide> linuxpoet: (despite our bylaws)
15:09 < linuxpoet> Ahh so we need consent (same as Oregon law)
15:09 < cdlu> the procedure for email votes is arcane, we could always have a conditional vote now
15:09  * Hydroxide moves to wait until February on this resolution, pending legal advice from SFLC
15:09 < Maulkin> cdlu: wording?
15:09 < linuxpoet> I just hate to hold these guys off for another four weeks if we find out tomorrow
15:09 < cdlu> we approve helios contingent on nobody bringing up objections following our legal advice, or somesuch
15:09  * Ganneff moves for a vote under "its only valid if we get positive feedback from our lawyers"
15:09 < luk> linuxpoet: we could also agree to hold the February meeting earlier? :-)
15:10 < linuxpoet> True enough
15:10  * Hydroxide nods at luk 
15:10 < linuxpoet> O.k. how about that? 
15:10  * Hydroxide withdraws his motion
15:10 < cdlu> our by-laws allow a special meeting to be called 
15:10 < cdlu> we could just do that
15:10 < linuxpoet> +1
15:10 < Maulkin> What notice is needed?
15:10 < cdlu> when we get the legal advice, president+secretary call the meeting and off we go.
15:10 < cdlu> 2 weeks, like any meeting.
15:10 < Hydroxide> guys, it's easiest to just have an earlier february meeting
15:10 < Maulkin> That's a while...
15:11 < Maulkin> *shrug*
15:11 < luk> Maulkin: in 10 days it's February already :-)
15:11 < linuxpoet> If we need two weeks, let's just have next meeting first week of Feb
15:11 < cdlu> I think conditional approval now is our fastest, easiest, and best bet.
15:11 < Ganneff> ok. so this point is done for now, i think? 2 weeks should be ok, and we can move a meeting if need be.
15:11  * Maulkin nods at cdlu 
15:11 < Hydroxide> cdlu: there's also a defect in the resolution
15:11 < linuxpoet> There is?
15:11 < cdlu> ok, then defer it. I'm not partial. :)
15:12 < Hydroxide> cdlu: i.e. it doesn't include the backup liaison that the HeliOS's application email referred to
15:12  * Maulkin seconds Hydroxide to defer.
15:12 < Hydroxide> Ganneff: let's go on.
15:12  * cdlu thinks we have enough unvoted seconds to run us a whole hour
15:12 < Ganneff> [item 8, Next board meeting]
15:12 < Ganneff> Going with third Wed of months it should be on Wednesday, February 18th, 2009, 20:00 UTC. Unless we screw this later by mail.
15:12 < Maulkin> (we can recall it at a special if needed)
15:12  * Hydroxide moves to meet Feb 11th instead
15:12 < zobel> so no item up for discussion?! :)
15:12 < Hydroxide> and not worry about a special
15:12 < Hydroxide> any objection to the 11th?
15:13 < cdlu> long agenda, short meeting. foolproof. :)
15:13 < zobel> Hydroxide: no
15:13 < linuxpoet> 11th is beter for me
15:13 < cdlu> no objection here, but please send loud obnoxious reminders
15:13 < Maulkin> Apologies for me next month.
15:13 < Hydroxide> I will.
15:13 < linuxpoet> I travelling the week of the 18th
15:13 < Hydroxide> 11th going once...
15:13 < Ganneff> send reminders, twice. so its the 11th then.
15:13 < Hydroxide> twice...
15:13 < Hydroxide> good.
15:13 < Hydroxide> will send reminders.
15:13 < Ganneff> *GAVEL*